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But what exactly is the nature of that which your are accepting?
Belief cannot come at the cost of what can be known, or it ceases to be altruistic belief, and instead becomes the seed of deception
None can speak to the true nature or will of "God", except within their own deterministic will, of that which they "believe". Not that which can genuinely be known. This is the intended meaning of the original teachings that "none can know or speak the true name of God". It does not refer to the name itself as many commonly misinterpret, but rather that many cease to respect and follow the inherent nature of the source of our collective creation and the "God who is" (Sabaoth, the sympathetic God) and instead find themselves following their own nominum "God you feel' (Yaldabaoth, the empathetic God)
Respectfully, ceasing to ask the question, is not the same as answering it
Especially where there is a deeper understanding to be found
We are taught the exact meaning of Jesus Christ within initiation into the mysteries. You are very right that there is more to it, but it is not something which can be understood within theological conceptualised salvation
Because those who choose to be saved, fail the very first test of initiation, and the reason for which they are in this world, which is "to take up your own cross"
"If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 25 For whoever would save his life[a] will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. 26 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?"
What this means, is you are supposed to learn from the example of Jesus Christ, and do a he did. For what good is it to gain the world, if you lose your soul in the process? What good is it to let another suffer for you, if you can't look yourself in the eye afterwards?
Or even worse, if you can? If you convince yourself that such amounts to love or something beautiful?
Those who accept salvation, cannot then claim to love Jesus Christ. Because if they understood what love is, they would choose to give up their own life and soul, before they ever let Jesus Christ give his up for them Love is to put another before yourself. If you choose your life over theirs, you do not truly understand what love is, and you do not love truly love them. You love yourself. You love their sacrifice for you. But you do love them
Initiates of the mysteries (secrets of the kingdom of heaven) are chosen because we reject such conceptualised salvation instinctually. We know what we are being offered is wrong, without needing to be told so. We would rather give up our own lives and souls, if necessary, because it is the right thing to do. Because we would rather d13, than ever let someone beautiful like Jesus Christ know any pain, that is ours to bear. Not his
Initiation into my order, begins with a real-life encounter with an orb of intelligent fiery light, (over the sea to the North of Darwin, Australia). Similar to the description of the burning bush in the Bible
We are then introduced to the "Lord of hosts" (I call them "the council"). A whole line of orbs, of all different colours. They call themselves "Sinai". But they have also been known by titles such as "the burning ones" and "Anunnaki"
The Catholic Cathedral here is named "St Mary's Star Of The Sea" and has a stained glass window depicted the exact orb of fire over the sea I encountered (with a statue of Mary holding baby Jesus in front of it)
After rejecting their offer of salvation, and alignment to any religion of our choosing, we are put through many years of physical and dimensional (or spiritual, if you prefer) trials, t0rture and hell, in order to gain very specific understanding which can only come through such person experience
Knowledge can be offered. But understanding can only come through experience
Within such, initiates do not "pretend to understand our hearts". We have an understanding of them is earned well beyond what theology can offer
We go through a test of heart, spoken of in the a Egyptian book of the d3ad, where you heart is weighed against a feather
Those with fear in their heart, are steered towards religion, rather than initiation. As they simply would not survive the initiation and ascension processes. They are not ready
Those without fear, have their resolve tested
It is one thing to say that your are willing to suffer and d13, rather than let another suffer and d13 for you. It is another thing entirely to actually go through with it and s4crifice yourself
We are put in a real life situation where we have to make a choice between our life, and the life of somebody else
In order to enter the underworld and become an initiate, this s4crifice must be made selflessly, without fear, and for something greater than yourself
It is done this way, so it cannot be faked or cheated
If you do this correctly, for the right reasons, under the specific conditions within which these orbs test you, then you do not d13
When you leave your body, you are met by "gatekeepers" to the underworld. Who weigh your heart and intent. In my case these were a male entity named El, and a female entity named Sophia
The only time any entity has freely offered their name in a way in which I believe them
If they deem you worthy and allow you entry into the underworld, you are sent back, and wake up in your body, when you should be d3ad
You become one who is considered both alive and d3ad. Like Odin, with one eye open to the external waking world, and one eye closed to the internal underworld. What is referred to in the Bible as "Solomon" (Solar Moon). You are both day and night. Both living and d3ad
You cannot become an initiate for selfish reasons, with fear in your heart, or simply to try save yourself
Those who would try, do not survive
They know every thought in your head. Everything bad you have ever done
But in reality, it is you who you stand before
Because it is you who will judge yourself the harshest, and will judge yourself the fairest
This process is incredibly painful, and it takes 14 years, to rip yourself back across dimensions (what the mystery school orders call "degrees") to realign to the waking world, as you were before
Within this time, you do not just learn about the mysteries of our creation, you live them. We learn the original structure of the source
We are taught to understand exactly what this world is. What the lands are. What the planets and stars are. What we are
We see ourselves, from outside of our own conscious mind. We experience other dimensions. Other people. Other worlds. Other species. Other places and times
We experience sitting in another persons body, as real as if we were awake on our own body
We view them as if we are them. At the same time as we remain ourselves
We experience being murd3red. So we can taste the metal in the back of our throat, from the spear in our chest
Real enough, that when I returned to my body, I spent the next hour crying, not only because I could still feel it in my chest, but because I could still feel the emotion of having my life unfairly taken from me
If you believe these entities to be God, then this is who they will be. If you believe them to be alien, then this is who they will be. If you believe them to be some type of Government technology, then this is who they will be
If you ask them directly "what are you?" the only answer they will give you is "I am what I am"
This teaches you, that deterministic will and personified nominum belief, limits possibility to probability
If you believe them to be something, then this is all they can/will ever be
But if you are open to all possibility, then you allow them to be that which they are. Allow them to be all that they are. Without your limiting belief getting in the way
"Let God be, at God is
Unto you, as to your divinity"
Such an understanding is important, as you cannot fill a cup which is already full
If you think you know the nature of creation already, or you familiarise it by name, then what could you possibly be taught of such things, that you would ever accept? Or at the very least, not immediately discount?
Such as your reply to my first comment. Where you kindly suggested that it is better just to accept what is commonly offered, than look any deeper, or seek the mysteries
An answer which can be sought, but is not, dishonors the nature of our ability to question
We disgrace the beauty and depth of the mysteries, if we choose not to honour them within our seeking
I understand the desire to submit to the comfort of the which feels safe and familiar
But the forsaking of the mysteries, should never be presented as any form of definitive answer. Because such amounts to willful corruption of the greater unknown systems, of the very same source or God you claim to represent
You disgrace the creator, when you willfully disregard the mysteries and wonders of their creation
You cannot claim to know both nothing, and everything at the same time, just as you cannot choose to be sheep, then present yourself as shepherd
I know you are well meaning and intentioned. But if you can see the legitimacy and righteousness within something offered, but you would seek (or recommend) to disregard such, for the integrity of a particular structured belief, then you honestly have no understanding of what "Christ" actually means. Because the inherent cycles of the Aeons are the very thing which promotes "Christ" into being. Without it, Christ could not exist
Seeking to disregard of bury the workings for belief, is to oppose the cycles of "Christ" definitively (as it's anti)
Regardless of good intent, you end up amounting to little more than those who would deny what Jesus offered in his own time, for the sanctity of older personal beliefs. Or Noah, Moses, Samuel, Nathan, Elijah, Elisha, Micaiah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi
You spit of the wine not because of its taste, but because of the name of its vintage is not one you know
The passing into the new age is like the turn of the tides, or the changing of the season. It will come, regardless of our collective beliefs or differences
It does not come to disgrace, or replace the passing ages of their compedium
It comes for new understanding needed, in the new age
There is no reason to fear or oppose it. As all such will end up doing is hurting those who do unnecessarily
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